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Michael Jackson
Posted by JordeR on the 26th of June 2009 at 3:03 AM
In the words of Richard Cross, this guy is a certified G.
What a true legend, R.I.P.
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Kenjinn0:03
STOP IT ARCHIE, the one video that actually makes me feel sooooooo bad
don1Sep 2, 23:29
sLoZo you'll have better luck on irc
arch1eSep 2, 23:27
FrizaSep 2, 23:20
Pissed on? LOL - yeah i love golden showers, HOW YOU DOING ANYWAY HANLEY whats u and ur brother up2 now?
HannersSep 2, 23:19
friza LMAO im sure i remember u as the afroman geek who got pissed on at moongames by JOhN. i bet uv probably never seen a cunt
FrizaSep 2, 23:12
http://www.channel4.com/p… - I think you better watch that HANLEY H@H@
HannersSep 2, 23:08
fuking disgusting state of uk cs scene, LicK could make a comeback and dominate this peice of steam roasting shit
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its good the cunt is dead.
One ugly paedo down
RIP MJ - A LEJ
RIP.
You're an ignorant fool, aZx.
lol sorry that episode of south park with jackson in it jus came mind there "thats ignorant" jus a sick chuckle by me, R.I.P
the guy is an icon without him music would not be what it is today. for people growing up in 70s 80 and 90s this is as big a death as Elvis
yeh true Leg-end. RIP
this rich cross also sounds like a certified G.
growing up late 80's early 90's loved jacko! legend for his music but fucked it up with the kiddies
Brilliant music, shame that he has died.
Was born a black boy, died a white woman, but remained a musical genius.
he was and always will be a legend.
Legend.
RIP MJ - you touched so many.
You cannot deny his musical genius, however you can also not deny his insane paedofilia.
RIP
music was a treat for the ears. good bye my looooooooooove
Was robbed of a childhood by manipulative agents and greedy parents. I wonder if there is such thing as an accessory to paedophilia ...
Condolences to his family.
michael jackson has never been convicted with a paedophilia charge, besides, i didn't care much for his private life, his music was everything
cardiac arrest at 50
i would blame it on the boogie
idd there will never be any1 like him.... no1 could moonwalk like him
rip .... he was blates murdered 
R.I.P Mr Michael Jackson,
Unfortunately, You have upset everyone in the world, including those who have tickets to your concert
"cardiac arrest at 50
i would blame it on the boogie"
rofl
he was a complete legend, R.I.P Michael sad day =(
BREAKING NEWS!
Jacko's body has been melted down and made into a slide, so the kids can still go down on him.
Legend.
RIP MJ - you touched so many.
LMFAO
http://file046a.bebo.com/21/large/2008/11/14/17/20725941a9416451168l.jpg
legend.
Would have been good to see how his performances where at those o2 gigs if he was even gunna do them
RIP
Accessory to paedophilia - Yes its called a dildo.
dont throw ur tickets for his tour away if u have them, theyll be worth a lot in a couple of years!
doubt it there was so many sould
QQ
He was a fucking zombie
lol refused. shame to see him go, though, he made some pretty solid tunes.
seems the credit crunch is hitting everyone hard then, even the jacksons having to let one go.
loved watching thriller on the old vhs !
legend rip
Who's that ugz impersonating him NeIL_M?
RIP.
legend, rip
whats the difference between micheal jackson and alex ferguson .... ferguson will still be playing giggs in august
Heard that McD, stop trying to be funny. MJ is way more important then you'll ever be you sad cunt.
LOL!! Why is he more important prodd? He's isn't, just because he made music it doesn't make him any more important than anyone else.. Yea he was a great artist and had a huge effect on music but that doesn't put him above the thousands of other children, women and men who die each day.
rip <3 his music
but i did hear they are recycling his face into plastic bags
sorry ^
Access to Pedophilia, for Highlander,
its UKCT and CS.
h4hh4h4h4h4h4
ARGENTO I
ARGENTO I agree, but his music and influence affected alot of lives. And yeah he isn't more important but look at the way he's got people together in his mourning, it shows people of all race, colour and etc can come together, something we all need with all the shit going on now-a-days.
I see both points though.
any1 actaully see him try and shag a youth? na didnt think so
R.I.P legend
any1 actaully see him try and shag a youth? na didnt think so
Oh right yeah I forgot all peadophiles get convicted solely because the crime was witnessed.
"The first case brought against him he paid them out of court because the guy wanted to avoid public humiliation, better to settle it quickly then have a long court process which can be still inaccurate/wrong and quite frankly he could spend that money without blinking an eye.
There was a second case that was brought agaisn't him which he was proven innocent. He couldn't afford to pay them off again because at this time he was near bankruptcy and this time had to go through court. One of the evidence for Jackson was that there was no trace of the kids DNA in his bed s0.
You can tell by seeing the guys interviews that he wasn't right in the head but after seeing the Martin Bashir interview he did with him I can honestly say I couldn't see one bit of malice in him, just a deprived human who was forced into child stardom without any kind of normality in his life"
wut i wrote on gotfrag. rip, guy will always be a legend
THE best musical talent ever. R.I.P
Argento your argument for every death meaning the same is completely retarded. Think about it.
hes not dead anyway hes done a 2pac
lol refused - obvsiously ppl have their opinions and thats fine. think ure being abit of a sheep tbh
but i jst think ppl forget about all the good things he did because of this "touching little boys" shit
when u read into it, him dying his skin white kind of made sense - he had some form of skin cancer which lead him having white blotches all over his body. So he did what most people would do and pigmented his skin all one colour - white.
no1 knows if he molested any1 because theres no proof which is why they found him non-guilty.
finally b4 i ramble on ppl dnt know that he was in the world record books for giving to the most charities =)
A true legend. The whole reason many of us, including me, are actually into music.
His legacy will live on forever.
R.I.P MJ. x
R.I.P MJ - You touched so many
I turned on radio 1 friday morning and nihal said that exact sentence haha
Why's it retarded dolphin? Just because he was a huge icon that doesn't mean he's any more important than a kid who gets shot. I'll look forward to your explanation.
he didnt actually write the music u guys seem a little confused (the lyrics maybe).
still he had a decent voice and stage presence and whatnot rip
argento i understand what you mean in a kinda religious way?
but for example : a little chav in the midlands getting pwned is just another number to the majority (i understand not to his family and friends it would be tragic) where as mj influenced so many and so many people know of him its going to be more important surely?
MJ dying is more important then a kid/woman/man getting shot. Stuff like that happens every fucking day, and to be quite honest nobody knows them, therefore nobody would really care? MJ has influenced so many people, music, everything - a legend you might as well put it as. If these thousands of other people that die everyday, did something as great as he did, maybe they would be recognized for what they do. Unless they were going to cure cancer then no, noone tends to give a fuck. ARGENTO please realize that Michael Jackson is probably more important then McD, he didn't have lots of gigs to play and live his name up to. And noone gives a fuck if an asbo/chav gets killed. I don't. Do you?
I wonder if you would call it "touching kids shit" Moon if it was your little brother/any young relative in bed with him watching Disney movies. I am not saying there was any malice in all that stuff, but at the end of the day people are giving him a 'moral pass' for it because of who he is. Is that fair?
wow spk so smart
also argento if you're going to try and pull that every life is the same bullshit(which you have to by extension of death being the end of life) then you're going to fall in to another 1000 holes other than all deaths being the same... unless in some stupid way you mean that the actual experience of death is the same metaphysical experience for the person involved, then yes... well done
equality of life isn't even worth exploring beyond birth and even at that stage it is arguable
also GMan I don't think giving someone, who was cleared of the allegations against him, a 'moral pass' is much of an issue
i like spk. good headset, good morales.
I have great morals in life, e.g to argue dolphin and win, oh wait i already do by3
and he does philosophy.
huh I was agreeing with you wtf0rk
dale, you're going down a dangerous route with that argument.
'equality of life isn't even worth exploring beyond birth and even at that stage it is arguable'
Ohhhhh dear Dale
But also GMan I don't think giving someone, who was cleared of the allegations against him, a 'moral pass' is much of an issue' ... do you know something we don't GMan? Or maybe the people who heard ALL of the evidence, the judge and jury etc, should they be consulting you?
As usual you show yourself to be a true blue gimp(TM)
again not convicted and if you were a parent, you wouldn't be stupid enough to let your kid stay with a fully grown adult who clearly had issues. I MEAN COME ON! TAKE A PAGE OUT OF THE COMMON SENSE HAND BOOK. I could understand if MJ was your relative but to let a eccentric stranger look after your kids... you're just looking for trouble.
I think some parents saw a decent chance to extort money and took it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzrmntvwfBk
if equality of life isnt worth arguing why are you saying michael jacksons life was/is more important than other people? seems like youre trying a bit too hard to sound clever and getting yourself allll confused.
he was an influential guy so its understandable that it's a big deal that he has died. but there is still a point in what argento said... there are plenty of ridiculously inflential people that have affected far more people and made huge sacrifices to help others that dont get anything like this just because theyre not in the public spotlight so i can see why it seems like a bit of an injustice to put such value on the guy. no disrespect (to mj) of course but you clearly aren/t seeing the other side of the arguement.
i dont particularly agree either way i just thought id point it out
what other influential people are you talking about that have died fordE? hes talking about regular people from what i understand
just for anyone thinking a little bit laterally here
where is the injustice in being sad someone died? If you're the guy outside looking in on this MJ bubble, what does that matter? They are sad and you are not. How can you tell them they shouldn't be sad, that they're stupid for being sad a weirdo/accused paedophile etc died? I don't think there are very many situations where death is something you can or should be happy about, and as it happens this person had MANY, MANY admirers and was a key figure in the world of celebrity - that MANY, MANY people are interested in. I don't like the celebrity culture but I can't do anything about it now so why worry about it?
I assume the real bone to pick here is the media coverage (because anyone with half a brain can't tell people who they can and cant be sad about when they die) but you forget that the media covers the biggest current issues because thats what people want to get information about. If it's an injustice that this death gets coverage and other deserving people don't, it's also an injustice that swine flu got lots of coverage and 'bubonic plague' didn't. Imagine how the people who's family died of plague feel, surely they would want the coverage and support just as much. An injustice for the coverage of Man Utd's football game but not Accrington Stanleys. Please don't just pick holes in my examples but understand my point first and foremost
Thanks
Ocelot what are you on about? Why are you talking about the trial? My point has absolutely nothing to do with Jackson's trial. I was referring to the fact people give him a moral pass for watching Disney films in bed with children to whom he has no relation; this is fact and Jackson never denied it. Now of course there is no legal issue with this and I never said there was (hence me saying there was NO malice in it). My point is that if someone who wasn't so popular with millions of people across the world was to to do this you would all be like "what the fuck is this guy doing?"
Once again you prove yourself to be a nerd by going on UKCT when you are in Asia.
I've sat on a sofa watching films with my babysitter like 15 years ago... Not exactly a long way off is it. Obviously he wasn't entirely mentally stable and I don't think people are saying he was now that he's dead. I think the point is more that everything he did, like you said, was with the best intentions. If there was really something so very wrong with it, then i'm pretty sure the parents should be doing something about their kids spending nights at Michael Jackson's house.
Oh wait they did, they tried to claim a load of money. Great. The reason we don't just outcast him as a freak is because people have quite a large amount of sympathy for the terrible things that happened to make him as odd by 'normal' standards as he is.
fordE: I didn't actually present any arguments for MJ's life being more valuable than any particular average person or a murderer or something... You're the one getting confused. My point was that it is too easy to and that without an understanding of different lives having different values then you'd just have so many issues I can't even be bothered to delve. I assumed people would be smart enough to realise that.
p.s. you just couldn't resist could you Jed, saw this and your eyes lit up
I had a terrible childhood let me sleep with your children please?
OK!
..back to the point his music was shit until he turned into a white man what does that tell you? exactly.
So, Jade Goody was racist in the BB house towards Shilpa called her Shilpa Poppadom. Jermaine Jackson called Jade white trash behind her back as a result of this but nobody batted an eyelid. Then Allah, most vindictive of the Gods, saw fit to smite his brother for the racism bandied around. Let this be a warning to you all, infidels and cocksmiths alike.
w1ckedz, he was black when he released Thriller...the biggest selling album of all time? Idiot.
his music was shite until he turned white....LOL ????
Michael Jacksons girlfriend was devasted when she heard he was dead, first her parents leave her in Portugal and now this happens
there is no injustice in being sad if someone dies. the injustice is in the fact that some charity worker or soldier that took bullets for his mates or some other better example - if they die noone gives a fuck. no matter how influential
its just how the world currently works and how most people currently think but if you dwell on it then youd have to dwell on a million other things making the world a fucked up place.
might as well toss in my 2 cents too: as soon as you move away from equality of life you begin passing judgement on the value of individuals. unless you are a fucking idiot, it's quite clear that we don't have any privileged access to the truth, so claims about whether MJ is more/less important than anyone else are, at best, partial.
i guess claims about MJ are fairly exceptional, because there is a degree of consensus that his music was good and that he made a large contribution to society, but in other cases it might be dangerous to pass judgement on people's worth. applying the same principles to organ donor queues, etc, involves highly subjective decisions amidst an intense ethical debate - in this case, where views are so partial and contested, equality of life offers a sound principle.
that is why the entire legal system and broadly accepted social judgement systems have been invented/produced
if we're talking about equality, we must be talking about a quantifiable all embracing equality, which can rarely be the case... your argument hinges on the uncertainty of knowledge on each person, but more simply than that, there is a certainty with groups.. in its most crude form it is that we can see person a (and what for, obviously) and we can see person b hasn't, therefore we can pass judgement, accurately on the superior social nature of person b, which expands to all people who meet both criteria that those two have...
i'm a bit confused what you're trying to argue, your principle of equality is based on 'this case', but i'm not sure what case you're referring to... in the case of MJ there are obvious facts about him (cleared of charges, produced inspiring music) that we can point to... in the case of organ donors it is indeed subjective, but this doesn't detract from being able to produce applicable variables (age, time on waiting list, reason they need the organ and perhaps even their contribution to society if they are a known charity investor or whatever you want)...
it is dangerous to pass judgement but in a lot of cases it is equally dangerous not to (i'd like to have someone who murdered my family put in prison to show their lack of value to society rather than support their equality), the point is that it CAN be done and so 'equality of life' as was first suggested, as a broad and all encompassing term, is simply and obviously not the case
perhaps there is some argument for certain individuals with such scarce information available to the 'judger' that their value cannot be determined so you make them equal, but there is still going to be an internal knowledge from each person, which if it were possible to measure, would indicate it... not being able to measure something is never an excuse for saying it isn't there
I wish you paid attention in school when they were teaching kids how to write in English. That post makes me feel ill.
always comes down to who can write the bestest engoolish.. =)
wicked showing his undying knowledge in real life aswell xD
yes i'm sure I don't know how to write english... next time i'm writing something i'll be sure it passes the Ogg authentication before I finish
if your stomach is so fragile then kindly go and let your mum blow raspberries all over it rather than wheelchair browsing ukct
GMan your life is in black and whites and I can't see a reason to ever discuss something with you, ever. Nothing is worse then a pigheaded cynic like you, NOTHING
"Michael Jacksons girlfriend was devasted when she heard he was dead, first her parents leave her in Portugal and now this happens"
HAHAHAHAHA
You have confirmed my worries that you are infact stupid! You did manage to stop using commas, in all, the wrong, places, in your last reply though, well done;
when i'm typing on the gaming forums I only use commas and ellipses to separate my convulated and poorly formatted walls of text
i'd imagine we can both bash our dicks in each other's faces over how good we are at english and how much we've studied it, so please just get over it and don't read my posts if that eases your emotions any better
p.s. in fact* ...I just got an erection
when did i say i had no sadness for influential people, thats EXACTLY the point.
dale, you got me, i was playing devils advocate. while i do believe that we can never pass TRUE judgements on the value of people's lives, i also think that such judgements may be USEFUL if they are well reasoned and supported by evidence to the point that they may be treated AS IF TRUE. from a pragmatic perspective, i agree entirely when you say "it is dangerous to pass judgement but in a lot of cases it is equally dangerous not to".
+1 for use of the term 'Devils Advocate' 哈哈
JShredder on July 1, 2009, 9:58 am.
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My life is in black and whites? Care to explain that one please? I think you just realised you read my original post wrong and that you have no rebuttal.
GMan` on July 2, 2009, 12:26 pm.
What a shame. Now stop making your girlfriend visit internet cafes in Asia so you can go on UKCT.
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1 for 1'ing my use of the term devils advocate
Impressive stuff GMan, make a post and then come back 12 hours later to make sure it's the cutting edge in put downs
Mobile internet, I'm keeping a blog for my friends and family, dick.
I noticed a spelling mistake, didn't want to face your 'wrath' for it. But the point still remains that you clearly realised you have no rebuttal, and are in fact a twat.
Why bother blogging for your friends when they all live in Taiwan anyway?
Your point is that michael jackson spent time with his friends kids and watched some disney movies with them, and that we give him a 'moral pass' for doing that cause he was a good entertainer - or that someone made light of it and you think it's a 'super serious issue'.
Rebutting this 'point' is below me - I asked my dog though and he'll get back to me when he's not busy rolling in fox shit and licking his testis, and I'll relay it on to you
No more arguments pleeeeeease, you're boring as shit
Hi Jed
ogg u fkin gender bender - its forums we're typing on - not an english essay. fuking tool get a grip
Lol @ MJ as the most musically gifted person ever... roflrofl